本帖最后由 hegel325 于 2011-3-5 15:32 编辑
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无视我的问题吧，BGG发现了官方发布的规则纠错，这样我的问题就解决了
最后一条规则是几乎全改了：当工厂/仓库被没收的时候则相当于抵押贷款的赎回一样，那张欠款本身也相当于还清了（不仅仅是本回合利息，而是欠款本身）
话说之前难道没其他人发现那段话的规则有很大问题？
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/275874/official-errata-rule-4-1-pay-interest
If a player cannot pay his interest, the bank seizes one (or more) of the delinquent player's Containers for each loan in default in the following manner, repeating this procedure for each loan in default:
The bank seizes 1 Container from the delinquent player's area on the Foreign Island Board.
If the delinquent player has no Containers on the Foreign Island Board, the bank seizes 2 Containers from the player's Harbour Store.
If the delinquent player does not possess enough Containers in his Harbour Store the bank seizes 1 Container from the Factory Store for each Container not successfully seized from the Harbour store. It is possible that a player will have no Containers in his Harbour Store to be seized, and so the bank will seize both the Containers from the Factory Store. In the event that a player only has one Container in play in either his Factory Store or Harbour Store (a total of one, not one in each area), the bank seizes only one Container for the defaulted loan for this turn only.
For example, if a player has one defaulted loan, 1 Container in his Harbour Store and 4 Containers in his Factory Store, the bank will seize the 1 Container from the Harbour Store, and additionally seize 1 Container from the Factory store, leaving the player with just 3 Containers in his Factory Store and no Containers in his Harbour Store. Additional defaulted loans could further reduce this total.
If the delinquent player has no Containers in play at all, the bank seizes either a Warehouse or a Machine. If a Warehouse or Machine is seized, the player may return one loan document to the bank, as it has been paid off by the asset itself. The delinquent player must exhaust all other measures (above) before allowing the seizure of a Warehouse or Machine, and may not willingly lose a Warehouse or Machine unless it is the player's last option. The "-" and $6 Machine and the "-" and $4 Warehouse are always safe and cannnot be seized by the bank.
In the event that the player has nothing that can be legally seized by the bank, the player may avoid paying the remaining interest for the current turn only.
In all cases, selection of the seized Containers, Factories or Warehouses by the bank is done by the player to the delinquent player's right. Selection is NOT done by the delinquent player himself, with the exception that if they player is to lose a Warehouse or Machine, the player may select which of the two types of assets they will lose. In the case of a Machine, the player to the right will still select which colour to be seized.
Any Containers seized by the bank are placed back in the box, and out of the game. Any Machine or Warehouse seized is simply placed back into supply.
英文规则这部分没看懂，特地找了中文规则还是没看懂
游戏规则4.1，有两个“例如”
第一个例子 一张欠款，港口市场1集装箱，则每一个港口市场不能提供的在工厂门市部没收一个
第二个例子 两张欠款，港口市场1集装箱，那么银行没收港口市场的集装箱，同时从工厂门市多没收1个（英文规则：1 additional）
问题是，不是每笔欠款在神秘岛上没有集装箱的情况下需要缴纳2个玩家面板的集装箱吗？那在例二中，规则描述的动作是不是就是只解决了第一笔欠款的拖欠利息（一共上交2集装箱，1欠款=2集装箱），第二笔欠款利息还需要重新来算呢？还是说例二的这个动作一次结清了两笔欠款本轮的拖欠利息？我没有理解例二里面把例一里一张欠款变成两张欠款有什么说明上的用处
这就到了我的第二个问题，这点似乎中文规则和英文规则矛盾。中文规则似乎直接解决了我的问题，但我感觉和英文的规则又不大匹配
中文规则说得是如果拖欠玩家没有任何“剩余”的集装箱则怎样怎样，也就暗示了如果我神秘岛上没集装箱，自己的面板只有一个集装箱的时候，这个集装箱没收，此时“剩余”为0，还需要1，因此该条开始生效
但是英文规则下这两个条件似乎是并列关系
"if the player has no containers on the foreign island board..."
"if the player has no containers in play at all..."
英文规则的第二条并没有暗示“剩余”的，相反“at all”的意思就是说第二条和第一条的条件是互相排斥的，因为第一条说的是虽然神秘岛上没集装箱，但玩家面板有；第二条似乎暗示说“如果连玩家面板都没有-也就是 ‘完全’（at all）没有”
那么就到了我的第二个问题：如果神秘岛上没有箱子，玩家面板只有1个箱子的时候，没收该箱子后还需缴纳的额外一个箱子是否适用“工厂/仓库抵拖欠箱子”这一规则（假设有高等级的可没收的工厂/仓库）？
