本帖最后由 rrssttrst 于 2013-4-11 10:08 编辑
这个贴，放在这里，而不是冰火版图专区里，是为了让更多人看到，解惑更多。
最近准备开魔龙扩，在翻BGC和BGG的过程中，发现很多武将相互作用的疑问，尚没得到很好的官方解答。
为了扫平开局的障碍。我给Jason Walden（Game Producer of Fantasy Flight Games）写了邮件，详细询问了一部分大家经常问的问题。
以下是已经确定结论的问题的FAQ。在官方FAQ出来之前，大家先看看吧。
也希望大家跟帖说出自己的疑问，大家共同讨论出结果：
首先，关于魔龙的FAQ，我问
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Would you provide a specific FAQ to cover main vague issues in this expansion, especially many interactive functions in house cards?
Many questions are frequently asked in BGG but answers are hard to be acquired officially.
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[indent][indent]他说：
We are working on an updated FAQ but are not ready to release it yet.
In the meantime, feel free to ask me any questions you may have and I'll be glad to answer them.
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以下是我总结提出的一些已经确定的武将互动问题
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if I use Doran for one battle and when I reveal this card, whether or not this card should be seen as still “in my hand”, since this will change the result in the combat strength calculation phase?
For example, if before the battle I have 6 house cards (including Doran) in hand and 1 discard one, and in the battle I choose to play Doran, then should the battle strength of Doran at this time be 6 or 5?
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As he is being played, he is no longer considered "in your hand", nor your discard pile. Thus, in your example, his strength would be 0 (subtracting 5 for the five cards still in hand, but to no less than 0).
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Question 3:
This is similar to question 1 but comes from Quentyn Martell. If before the battle I have 6 house cards (including Quentyn) in hand and 1 discard one, and in the battle I choose to play Quentyn, then should the battle strength of Quentyn be 2 (1+1) or 3 (1+2)?
That is, whether the revelation of Quentyn makes it a discard card at once which will increase the number of discard cards by one?
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As he is being played, Quentyn is not considered "in your discard pile", nor your hand. Like Doran, he's in a space in between the two locations. Similar to the "moribund" state in A Game of Thrones: The Card Game (if you've ever played that). If you follow the order of Combat in the rulebook, you'll notice on page 21 under the Combat Clean Up step (the very last step of combat) it states "Both played House cards are discarded to their respective player's discard piles…"
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Question 4:
Margaery Tyrell: if all the requirements of her ability are fulfilled properly, will the final battle strength of her opponent be 2, even the original final battle strength of her opponent is only 1?
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That is correct. That is probably the one instance you wouldn't want to play her.
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Question 5:
When Margaery Tyrell faces Mance Rayder, suppose the requirements of Margaery Tyrell ‘s ability are fulfilled properly, how I determine the final battle strength of Mance Rayder?
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As stated on page 19 of the rulebook, all timing conflicts in regards to House card text abilities are resolved in the order of the Iron Throne track ("turn order"). The player in the higher position of that track (closer to the top) resolves his effect first, followed by the player lower on the track.
So in this case, let's assume that Baratheon is higher on the Iron Throne track. He would resolve Mance's card text ability first, making his final combat strength equal to the Wildling track. Then, the Tyrell player would resolve Margaery's card text ability, overriding the Baratheon player's previous strength entirely and making it equal 2.
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Question 6:
When Doran Martell faces Margaery Tyrell, suppose the requirements of Margaery Tyrell ‘s ability are fulfilled properly, how I determine the final battle strength of Doran Martell?
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Same as stated above in Question 5, the player on the higher position of the Iron Throne track would read and resolve their text ability first. Then, the next player would resolve his text ability, possibly overriding the previous player's resolution.
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Moreover, in this confrontation, whether the sword symbol and stronghold symbol of Doran should be changed as indicated by his ability as usual? That is, does Margaery Tyrell’s ability change the way that Doran changes his own sword symbol and stronghold symbol?
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Margaery's ability does not in any way have any effect on Doran's sword and fortification icon ability. He would receive those icons regardless of his final combat strength.
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Question 7:
The activation of Melisandre’s ability is optional, not compulsory, right?
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Yes. Melisandre's ability includes the word "may" which makes it entirely optional.
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If I have Melisandre card and it is my last house card unused, after I use it for a battle and I choose to activate her ability to get Mance Rayder back in hand, at this moment, does the card reshuffle mechanism activate? (which I think will put Melisandre in discard and will take all other cards back in hand), or the Melisandre’s ability activates rather than the card reshuffle mechanism?( which I think will first put Mance Rayder back in hand, and will then discard Melisandre and will not activate card reshuffle mechanism since now Mance Rayder is still in my hand)
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The timing on this one is understandably a little bit tricky. But try to follow the rules as literally as possible to determine the outcome. I've attached the most recent FAQ from the base game to help with the timing.
As stated in the FAQ, cards with the phrase "After combat…" take effect after the Combat Clean Up step. It is during this step that House cards are discarded to the discard pile and new cards are drawn back if the card played was the last card in hand. As such, if Melisandre was the last card played, her effect wouldn't be resolved until after the other cards in the discard pile were drawn back into hand. Thus, she could only choose herself to return to hand.
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Question 8:
The Aeron Damp Hair card says that you can discard power tokens to equal the power that you want and that's easy to understand but when do you do that? Do you say how many you're committing before you see your opponents card?
According to the basic rule or the game, the text on cards is resolved in turn order after they are revealed is they have no “immediately”, “cancel” or “ignore”. But the high turn order will bring disadvantages if two cards with bidding ability fight each other, since the player who bids second will know exactly how much he will pay to win the player who bids first.
For example, Aeron VS Qyburn
I think high turn order should bring advantages but here it seems not, is this reasonable?
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As stated above, the players resolve conflicts like these in turn order of the Iron Throne track. For some effects, it is beneficial to go first. For others, it is beneficial to go last. In this case, it just so happens to benefit the player in the lower position. That is perfectly acceptable and intended.
